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    • 19 Jun 06
    • 2:52 pm

    "Exactly what my first thought was — Chicago 1960!" But Chicago didn't put Kennedy in the White House. 1960 electoral vote totals: Kennedy = 303 Nixon = 219 Illinois gave Kennedy 27 electoral votes. You do the math. In any case, the more significant problem with our "democracy" is non-participation: The U.S. ranks 139th out of 172 nations in voter turnout. Maybe 62 million voted for Bush, maybe 58 million for Kerry - but roughly 45 million eligible citizens didn't bother to vote at all. Every effort should be made to prevent electoral corruption, but the non-participation issue - while complex …

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    • 20 Jun 06
    • 12:12 am

    tina1 wrote: "Unions screwed themselves, they went way overboard. Look at what unions did to the rubber plants in Akron, Ohio during the 70's. BF Goodrich, General Tire, Kelly-Springfield, Goodyear and Firestone were all located in Akron. Employment in Akron's rubber companies was at 60,000. After a four-month, industry-wide strike in 1976, rubber companies started building plants in Iowa, Oklahoma and southern states where the work ethic was better. These plants were still union but the people in these states were better workers and they didn't try to screw their employer. They actually take pride in what they do, unlike union …

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